Key/Name Of Staff: Eckles_Fire and Monimus Your Key/Name: Noreaus Date and Time of Incident(s): 1st Feburary 2021 ~0430 GMT Game ID: cao-aAvd Note on identification: Rather than try to guess which of the admins online did this, and whether the actions were admin-intervention, I ahelped (stating, for full disclosure, that this was for a possible staff complaint) to ask the online staff whether these were admin-spawned and which admins spawned them in. Thanks to Monimus for providing the details. Reason For Complaint: There are two aspects to this complaint (and one which is background, and does not form part of the complaint, which I'll take in turn. The following events happened during a Secret Traitor round, but did not involve the traitors at all. Background (non-complaint) Spawning vending machines all over: Fine. Like, I don't like it, but it's so minor that it's just a thing. Just putting it here for completeness - the admin in question (I didn't ask in my ahelp who did this as it wasn't something I intended to complain about) was clearly having fun with spawning items in from the start of the round, by spawning vending machines throughout the Torch. This is a fairly common occurrence and not part of this complaint per se. Three-eye spawns - minor complaint (Spawned in by Eckles_Fire) Several (at least 6?) Two were turned into the bridge, another 2 apparently appeared /on/ the bridge, and two near medical - but judging by the admin announcements made I think there may have been more. Naturally I can't know for sure. When characters went into seizures due to the three-eye, an announcement was played stating "Medical emergency in: location". What struck me is: If a *player*, non-antag, created dangerous drugs and left them willy-nilly all over the map, this would be admin-actionable. So why is this behaviour that is acceptable from an admin - who has the added advantage of the crew having no recourse to stop this. Furthermore, if the defence is that this is part of an 'event' to liven up a round (though the round was /not/ Secret Extended - it was Traitor (or SpyvSpy - my point is, there were traitors) - surely an Event like that needs to have more sense than simply 'dangerous drugs left all over so people take them'. That's the kind of behaviour that, if an antag did it, we'd consider actionable, right? (Note - this also, later on in the round, led to at least one character gaining psychic powers) "Giant" Killbots spawned in on the hanger and Charon - major complaint - (Spawned in by Eckles_Fire and Monimus) A number of giant killer reports were spawned in the Hanger and the Charon, requiring immediately security intervention and causing numerous crew injuries. This appeared to happen for no reason. At least one explosion was apparently caused by this spawning-in (I'm uncertain about that last part - this is based mostly on post-factor observation as I was in-round at the time. I think this is a problem regardless of whether this explosion was due to the robots, however) I received confirmation in ahelp this these were admin-spawned. Spawning killbots on the Torch, with no clear reasoning behind it and not part of any coherent 'event' is, in my opinion, behaviour tantamount to griefing the playerbase - this caused a great deal of injury among the crew and required a great deal of medical attention. Again, I would not consider this to be as much of a problem if it was some kind of 'event' that made sense - I.E. the same responsibility we put on antags, not just violence for laughs. Finally - this was all during a Traitor round. I would understand this, a little better, in a secret-extended round (where, to my understanding, admin intervention usually goes), or to support a traitor's gimmick, but in this case it was just...random? It was particularly bad, in my view, as security were made aware (during the whole "Robots!" thing) that there was an antag who seized the cockpit of the Charon - the appearance, suddenly, of giant robots and a pitched battle disrupted the flow of the round and, in my view, was an abuse of admin powers of spawning items. I can't speak for that antag, but certainly if I'd have been an antag doing antaggery in their place, and suddenly - giant robots - I would be extremely miffed. In conclusion - I would urge the admins in question and/or any reviewing staff to consider whether the uses of powers detailed above meet the expectations that we don't just require of staff, but also of players - that is to say, if a player non-antag performed actions in order to have the above effects, would we accept it? I think it's clear we wouldn't. I don't relish making a staff complaint and generally dislike the practice of forum complaints, as it seems like airing arguments with fellow players (who happen to be staff) in public - but the system is what it is, and I would like to get a feel of what is acceptable use of admin powers, as to me this seems beyond it, but if it isn't, it would be good to establish that.